In this episode I chat with Matthew Smith from Forever Beer and Wine about the pitfalls he has faced trying to open a brewery and winery. Currently the brewery project is on hold, but the production winery is up and running. Matthew also talks about his journey from craft beer geek to home brewing, and eventually moving on to making wine. Make sure to follow Forever Beer and Wine on Facebook and Instagram @foreverbeerandwine. You can also order their wine for curbside pickup or delivery at http://www.foreverbeerandwine.com.